Is Steve Round Evertons Premier Problem?

canvassing opinion amogst the lads as to where we seem to be going wrong at the min and the spotlight fell on tactics , formation and how poor we look in general play. theres no movement into space when players don't have the ball to provide options for those that do, no attacking verve to get up there and worry the oposition, no desire to run with it and do something out of the ordinary and no triangles to allow us to play it barcelona style through and round teams.

now you could blame the players but most of us felt all of the above really comes down to what the players do in training and how they are set up / instructed to play. as the above problems seem to have got worse lately could it be the influence of Steve Round to blame? Don't get me wrong we were never Brazil circa 1970 when Irvine was assisstant but we were better than this. Maybe its just Irvibe stood up to Moyes more and would tell him when it wasn't working or his ideas were rubbish?

one thing has to be said though - we have lost most of our creative, skillful players who would bring the verve to our attack so it could just be that. we don't know what the players are told and it could be they're just not good enough to do it like we used to anymore?

I'm bloody knackered wheres me fags?